House Proceeding 07-27-09 on Jul 27th, 2009 :: 1:30:50 to 1:47:25
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John R. Carter: kevin brady of texas put that chart up. it shows 31 government agencies, new ones. it is accurate and shall stand and shall not come down. and they think this shouldn't be something for the public to see, they should come and take it

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Speech By: John R. Carter

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John R. Carter: back. i yield back. mr. carter: i thank my friend for reminding us of texas history. in reading over the list of people that have had the franking commission censor their language, i failed to mention congressman spencer chus who

1:31:29 to 1:31:49( Edit History Discussion )

John R. Carter: has had just horrendous hard times this year with the issues of bailouts and all the things that have gone on in the financial services industry, he submitted the te government-run health care. this is an exarkt sentence. government-run health care system proposed by president

1:31:50 to 1:32:11( Edit History Discussion )

John R. Carter: obama and liberal allies in congress. they would not allow him to say that. he was told during the cap and trade -- we say cap and tax bill, which is our description of the bill, they were not letting him use the bill cap and tax. they wanted it to be climate bill. he also had his language

1:32:12 to 1:32:32( Edit History Discussion )

John R. Carter: censored. e of my colleagues made the point and said, when people start censoring your language and telling you what to say, i think that most people in america start saying why are you doing that? we got frespeech in this country. those are my elected representatives. they have the right to express

1:32:33 to 1:32:53( Edit History Discussion )

John R. Carter: their opinion. why are you not letting them have their right to express their opinion? why can't they call something a government-run healthare that you want to call a public option plan? that ought to be part of the debate. i think the american people would ask that question. i also think they would ask the question about this chart, why

1:33:17 to 1:33:37( Edit History Discussion )

John R. Carter: out one that's not in the bill. so why can't we show it to people? why would ap branch of this house -- a branch of this house tell members of this house wha they can and can't say to the people who elected them to come up here and speak on their behalf? i think we should be concerned about this.

1:33:38 to 1:33:58( Edit History Discussion )

John R. Carter: i think americans should be worried that if they start telling us what we can say, what are they going to start telling you what you can say? and that's something, you know -- if we let it go, we are just as guilty of those who have let

1:34:22 to 1:34:42( Edit History Discussion )

John R. Carter: and we define those rights by setting them down in black and white in amendments to the and the first amendment, first sentence says, this house, this body, this government shall not infringe the right of free speech. . it is a direct directive to this government.

1:34:43 to 1:35:03( Edit History Discussion )

John R. Carter: that means the house of representatives, the congress freedom of speech in this country, the senate cannot interfere, and the executive branch, the president, or any the agencies, cannot impose upon the right of free speech in

1:35:04 to 1:35:25( Edit History Discussion )

John R. Carter: america. and yet a body created to decide how -- is telling us what we can and cannot say to the people that sent us up here. i don't think i'm blowing this out of proportion.

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John R. Carter: i don't think when mr. brady is told he cannot publish this -- initially in any form or fashion until it was discovered that the internet, the internet is a great protector of american freedom. because the average american can make a copy of this and send it to the world on the

1:36:10 to 1:36:32( Edit History Discussion )

John R. Carter: to talk to and communicate with the people that sent us to represent them. and the majority party has every right, the democrats have every right to express their opinion on bills, say what they think they say. we c say. we can describe them as we want to describe them.

1:36:54 to 1:37:14( Edit History Discussion )

John R. Carter: of the members of this body. if somody is telling one member they can't do it. if this chart was written every third word said elect kevin brady to congress, t franking commission would have every right to do because that would be using government money for your own personal business to get elected to congress.

1:37:15 to 1:37:36( Edit History Discussion )

John R. Carter: if it said elect only republicans to congress, you shouldn't use -- i agree, the franking commission would have every right to say that because that's why they are there. to keep us from using government money for political purposes. but when you're expressing your opinion and you have gone to the trouble with four researchers to dig through and find out every

1:37:37 to 1:37:57( Edit History Discussion )

John R. Carter: agency that's been created in the new health care plan that's being proposed by this congress at the instructions of this president, mr. obama, if these things a created,hy can't you tell people about them? if i want to describe the

1:37:58 to 1:38:19( Edit History Discussion )

John R. Carter: federal government's public health care plan as a government-run health re plan, then i choose to describe it that way because the government's going to run it. this isn't rocket science. the government is going to run it. in fact, a whole lot of these agencies are established to help them run it. and i want to describe it that way.

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John R. Carter: i've got a constitutional right to do that. and no colleague in this house, no organization set up by this house has the right to curtail the freedom of americans, especially the representatives of americans to speak their minds. and it may be a little thing, but you know what?

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John R. Carter: it just takes one drop of water and eventually the bucket's full, and then the barrel's full and if you're going to ignore the fact that i didn't count these names, but i can count

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John R. Carter: them, this list right here, 24 members of this house have had their language censored and their communications stopped because of something that they said like care, like democrat majority's

1:39:40 to 1:40:00( Edit History Discussion )

John R. Carter: -- using the term democrat majority in the newsletter. if this is going to happen, if you're going to tell people you can't state the bill imposes taxes, when it does impose taxes, if you're being told you can't send the letter out, you can't communicate, i don't see how you can define it any other

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John R. Carter: way than curtaing the freedom of speech in the united states. and that's what's going on. i have talked in the past about the fact that a while back, middle of these special orders where we have been talking about the rule of law and other

1:40:23 to 1:40:43( Edit History Discussion )

John R. Carter: things, congress just adjourned. we had a -- we have a three-day reading rule proposed by thomas jefferson. has been set as the standard for this house of representatives since the beloved thomas jefferson, patron saint of the democratic party. and yet the three-day rule promised by the speaker,

1:40:44 to 1:41:05( Edit History Discussion )

John R. Carter: promised by the president, established by thomas jefferson hasn't applied to a single one of these bills we have had thus far. not one. not one of these major bills, starting clear back in the summer -- in the fall, not one of them has given us three days to read them. yet if you rember john boehner

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John R. Carter: dropped one that was about that tall. 3,000 pages, dropped it on the floor to show we had it eight hours to look at. now, i guess it's one of these things if you don't step up and speak now when it's the little thing like making you change

1:41:49 to 1:42:10( Edit History Discussion )

John R. Carter: or whatever. or maybe your opinion is not wanted and you can't express it at all. and i don't think that's -- that's not america. that's not the america that we created. that's not the america we are proud of. that's not the america we honor when we salute the flag and when

1:42:11 to 1:42:31( Edit History Discussion )

John R. Carter: we sing patriotic songs. that's not the america that we want. we are talking about the national health care plan. i haven't gone io the merits of it. i think my colleague did a very good job. i'm so concerned about the fact they are censoring the fact, all it said was government-run it's like i committed a crime. what in the world would happen

1:42:32 to 1:42:53( Edit History Discussion )

John R. Carter: if i started saying what i thought about it? but i did see something on televion yesterday on pbs, it was winton churchill, he was kicked out of office in 1946, 1947, 1948 something like that by the labor party in england.

1:42:54 to 1:43:16( Edit History Discussion )

John R. Carter: but he was re-elected i believe in 1950. don't hold me to those dates. they were showing him making a speech. and he said, i won't quote it exactly, he said, two years ago we thought socialism was the solution to all of our problems.

1:44:43 to 1:45:04( Edit History Discussion )

John R. Carter: and we were told if we don't do it by friday we'll keep you saturday and sunday, if you don't do it saturday and sunday we'll keep you next week. but you're going to do it before you go home for august recess. i stood up here most of last august talking to a dark chamber because they turned off the lights and wouldn't let us talk. so i don't mind.

1:45:05 to 1:45:26( Edit History Discussion )

John R. Carter: i'll stay up here the whole august recess if that's what's supposed to happen. but they are trying to get in a hurry because the closest thing to eternal life cert a governmen program. once these government programs are in place, we'll never get rid of them.

1:45:27 to 1:45:47( Edit History Discussion )

John R. Carter: that's the consequences of getting in a hurry. i just point out that we got in a hurry on tarp. we got in a hurry on fannie mae and freddie mac. we got in a hurry on the stimulus bill. we got in a hurry on cap and trade. we have been in a hurry on everything we have done this year.

1:45:48 to 1:46:10( Edit History Discussion )

John R. Carter: and i think erybody is seeing the results of nothing thinking things out and not doing what we are supposed to be. i love it when somebody says we are the greatest deliberative body on earth. let's deliberate. i have had juries deliberate longer on an issue than we are dealing with on health care for

1:47:15 to 1:47:29( Edit History Discussion )

John R. Carter: the bill of rights and amendment of the bill of rights. it says that this congress shall not impose upon the freedom of