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House Proceeding 12-11-09 on Dec 11th, 2009 :: 2:33:05 to 3:09:40
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Steve King

2:33:05 to 2:33:25( Edit History Discussion )

Steve King: lord 17787. a great way to end a great document. i thank you and i yield back to my friend from iowa. mr. king: i thank my friend from texas and interesting to me, madam speaker, to listen to this presentation and think about the impact of the core of the faith on our founding fathers and ben

Steve King

2:33:05 to 3:09:40( Edit History Discussion )
Speech By: Steve King

Steve King

2:33:26 to 2:33:47( Edit History Discussion )

Steve King: franklin was a leader of them. part of me is a little curious what it would have been like to hear his entire confession but it is interesting to hear the statement that he made and i reflect also that for 60 years, the founding fathers and their success and the leaders in this nation and others would come in, they went to churchn this

Steve King

2:33:48 to 2:34:09( Edit History Discussion )

Steve King: c they worshipped on a regular basis. the first black man to speak in the united states house of representatives was a pastor that came here right at the end of the civil war to speak about the passage of the 13th, 14th and 15th amendment and as i watch things transition

Steve King

2:34:10 to 2:34:30( Edit History Discussion )

Steve King: here in the house, i would like to say also and another word to add to this proclamation said, god grant this nation the degree of prosperity which he alone knows to be best, close quote. and that is consistent with the presentation of the the gentleman from texas.

Steve King

2:34:31 to 2:34:53( Edit History Discussion )

Steve King: this isn't exclusively about how we make a lot of money, exactly how we are able to turn this economy around and put a lot of cash in people's pockets. there is something more important than this. an education without a moral foundation have to choose between education without a moral foundation and a moral education without the best

Steve King

2:34:54 to 2:35:15( Edit History Discussion )

Steve King: academic foundation, i'm going to take the moral foundation. that's what i want my children, grandchildren and this nation to learn. ago, there was a very well educated unibomber. they are destructive with their

Steve King

2:35:16 to 2:35:36( Edit History Discussion )

Steve King: education, academics and brilliance. we want a society where we have the opportunity to get back to the point where we don't lock our doors anymore. do you ever think when you forgot your car keys and you are standing out there and january, 20 below, why is it your car is locked? that's because of people in

Steve King

2:35:37 to 2:35:57( Edit History Discussion )

Steve King: society that don't have moral foundations, why do you lock your house? same reason. it is n indemocratic that we have to build cars without keys. we do that because it's a sign of the erosion in our moral foundation.

Steve King

2:35:58 to 2:36:18( Edit History Discussion )

Steve King: there are some places in america where people don't lock their doors. where i live, today, standing on the streets of washington, d.c., it happened to me wouldn't be hard for many others to experience the same thing, when a ambulance goes by, people on the street will stop talking because the siren is too loud

Steve King

2:36:19 to 2:36:40( Edit History Discussion )

Steve King: and some are irritated. that's the level of compassion that eminates from the curbs sometimes in the cities of america to the ambulance itself. our world, when the ambulance es by my house, we know who is inside and we know who the family members are reached by it. that's the neighborhood component and those neighbors

Steve King

2:36:41 to 2:37:03( Edit History Discussion )

Steve King: exist within the city, too, i don't mean to imply that. but people in a transitional stage, erodes the moral foundation, the more we need to take our resources to defend ourselves against the people who steal our property and assault our families and individuals. that's the lack of a moral foundation. if we get that right, at least

Steve King

2:37:04 to 2:37:25( Edit History Discussion )

Steve King: in theory, we don't need nearly as much for -- the police force can go out and do those things. they don't need to be occupied fighting violence all the time as they are. well, we have a situation here that is of great concern and madam speaker, yesterday, mr. gohmert and i and a number of

Steve King

2:37:26 to 2:37:46( Edit History Discussion )

Steve King: others did a press conference over in front of the supreme court building. and we did that to take up the issue of guantanamo bay, the gitmo detainees, the enemy combatants, the radical islamist jihaddists who have declared war against the united states who have committed their lives, assets and resources into

Steve King

2:37:47 to 2:38:08( Edit History Discussion )

Steve King: killing us. and they have succeed to a significant level, particularly september 11, 2001. i have been to the locations of ground zero in new york and the pentagon here in washington, d.c. and i have seen the impact of the attacks on our nation. and i have been down to

Steve King

2:38:09 to 2:38:31( Edit History Discussion )

Steve King: guantanamo bay, madam speaker, and i have talked with and observed the detainees down there. we have had over 800 detained in guantanamo bay. we tried to get as many released and sent back to their home countries as we could. we still boiled it down to 241

Steve King

2:38:32 to 2:38:53( Edit History Discussion )

Steve King: enemy combatants, radical islamists jihaddists, worst of the worst, they didn't have a place to go or proc with them, they are committing acts of war against the ev evidence that we have. and so president bush started this fairly early in the process and congress passed legislation called the detainee treatment

Steve King

2:38:54 to 2:39:14( Edit History Discussion )

Steve King: act that set up military tribunals try these enemy combatants and establish those parameters. all consistent within internationally set standards, all consistent within geneva convention standards and then set up an appeals process.

Steve King

2:39:15 to 2:39:37( Edit History Discussion )

Steve King: so in the event an individual who was to be tried or tried under the detainee treatment act was to appeal that decision or to appeal being tried before the detainee treatment act, their appeals would go to the u.s. circuit court of d.c., district of columbia court of appeals and

Steve King

2:39:38 to 2:40:00( Edit History Discussion )

Steve King: that's at happened in the hamden case. it is a landmark precedence case, osama bin laden's chauffeur. well, he should have some constitutional rights and the limitations that were set by the detainee treatment act were too broad. so he took the case, his attorneys -- and i don't know

Steve King

2:40:01 to 2:40:23( Edit History Discussion )

Steve King: that these were pro bono attorneys but there are scores of attorneys who are seeking to establish new precedence, took the case to the d.c. court, upheld it to the letter in the d.c. circuit. but the supreme court, by the way, which had been forbidden

Steve King

2:40:24 to 2:40:45( Edit History Discussion )

Steve King: from hearing a case that came out of the detainee treatment act because under article 3, section 2 of the constitution, this congress stripped that authority from any court other than the circuit even though the d.c. circuit upheld the letters of

Steve King

2:40:46 to 2:41:06( Edit History Discussion )

Steve King: the law and the content of the legislation, the statute. the supreme court after the decision of the d.c. circuit, outside of the bounds of the law itself article 3, section 2 language that stripped the supreme court of jurisdiction, they reached over and heard the case anyway. they got outside their zone. they went across the fence and

Steve King

2:41:07 to 2:41:27( Edit History Discussion )

Steve King: decided they were going to graze in the pasture that was set aside exclusively for t circuit and they overturned a component. so we came back to this congress in and we should have ignored the court. and it's clearly a component in

Steve King

2:41:28 to 2:41:49( Edit History Discussion )

Steve King: the constitution, article section 2 stripping, but the supreme court heard the case anyway and came to a decision and i will say, here's the article 3, section 2 language that was used, designed to prohibit the supreme court, it says, in all the other case

Steve King

2:41:50 to 2:42:11( Edit History Discussion )

Steve King: before mentioned that would include the hamden case, the supreme court shall have appellate jurisdiction as to law and to fact, so far the supreme speaker, but this is the part to pay attention to, and i quote again, with such exceptions and under such regulations as the

Steve King

2:42:12 to 2:42:32( Edit History Discussion )

Steve King: congress shall make. congress made exceptions and congress made regulations, congress essentially forbid the supreme court from hearg such a case under the detainee treatment act and i read that decision through carefully about this thick, madam speaker, and took a while.

Steve King

2:42:33 to 2:42:55( Edit History Discussion )

Steve King: case came out on thursday and i got my hands on the printed document on friday and saturday, this must have been jun and i was sitting in my back yard and reading through the supreme court decision, i marked up the m and it swells when you write on it and i looked up at the sky

Steve King

2:42:56 to 2:43:18( Edit History Discussion )

Steve King: and i thought, my gosh, the supreme court has defied the constitution and the congress. and now they have issued this opinion, which as i said was all it was, is now going to redirect congress to go back and redefine the detainee tr and so my position was that

Steve King

2:43:19 to 2:43:41( Edit History Discussion )

Steve King: congress should simply pass a resolution that we restate the detainee treatment act and ignore the supreme court because they are outside the bounds of the jurisdiction in the constitution and i would agree with justice scalia that the cases of article 3, section 2 stripping are legion.

Steve King

2:43:42 to 2:44:02( Edit History Discussion )

Steve King: that is the word justice scalia used. and yet, by the time i had analyzed the case, not that i had the leverage to turn this the other way, the chairs of the judiciary committee, in the house and senate and president bush had all conceded to the supreme court and said now we're going to comply.

Steve King

2:44:03 to 2:44:24( Edit History Discussion )

Steve King: at that point, it was too late to put the toothpaste back into the tube and cast it out and get it right. so congress came back and passed new legislation. new legislation on the heels of the detainee treatment act that set up combatant review -- enemy

Steve King

2:44:25 to 2:44:48( Edit History Discussion )

Steve King: combatant review tribunals. in other words, adjusted for the decision of the supreme court and we tried again. and along came the case and it narrowed our ability. if we concede those positions, which the majority of members of congress did and the administration did, but lt in

Steve King

2:44:49 to 2:45:10( Edit History Discussion )

Steve King: tact, the ability under military tribunals to try these detainees, these radical jihaddists that we're faced. and so we continued forward with the development of guantanamo bay, the housing of these detainees down at guantanam bay. we built the courtrooms, built up secure r

Steve King

2:45:11 to 2:45:31( Edit History Discussion )

Steve King: place where the family members could observe the trial, where the press could observe the trial and a microphone that projected to them with delay and officer sitting there with his ear tuned in wi anything that was classified as secret information that could put the people of the united

Steve King

2:45:32 to 2:45:52( Edit History Discussion )

Steve King: states in jeopardy, could put his finger on the mute button so the room could be cleared of the classified types of information that would be part of the trial. the facilities down at guantanamo bay are perfectly suited for the task at hand of

Steve King

2:45:53 to 2:46:13( Edit History Discussion )

Steve King: trying these enemy combatants, they were built for that. there are no other facilities in the world to try enemy combatants other than guantanamo bay down in cuba. i visited the place one weekend shortly before easter of this year. and i will say that t location might be the best place

Steve King

2:46:14 to 2:46:34( Edit History Discussion )

Steve King: you can be if you were going go to be an enemy combatant. i don't believe there have been prsoners of war, prisoners that have been been picked up in armed conflict, as the detainees in guantanamo bay. i don't know how they could be treated as good. they are living down there in

Steve King

2:46:35 to 2:46:57( Edit History Discussion )

Steve King: private cells. they each have their own room. they each have their own room and bunk and personal possesons. they get their own personal koran and comes to them in a zip-locked bag so that no and i put this in quotes, infidel has

Steve King

2:46:58 to 2:47:21( Edit History Discussion )

Steve King: touched the koran. they get the sterile koran delivered to them. they get a rug embroidered. prayer cap that they wear and a menu to choose three squares a

Steve King

2:47:22 to 2:47:42( Edit History Discussion )

Steve King: day, nine items approved for islamic meals and they have a little arrow on the bottom of eve that points east to mecca. it's a little bit different direction to point to mecca. if you go to the middle east and you look up on the ceiling of

Steve King

2:47:43 to 2:48:03( Edit History Discussion )

Steve King: the hotel room there will be an arrow there. that is the arrow, which muslim. they have an arrow in each of the cells that tell them which direction to pray. . their thermostat is at 70

Steve King

2:48:04 to 2:48:24( Edit History Discussion )

Steve King: degrees in their prison because they claim that 75 degrees is the cultural temperature. i say it nges up over 140 degrees. cultural temperature is 75 degrees so that's the climate control they get. they are not exposed to the elements unless they go out to

Steve King

2:48:25 to 2:48:45( Edit History Discussion )

Steve King: go out in that 82 or 83-degree temperature that's very stable, especially during the day in the caribbean. some of them goes do below 60 degrees at night. so they are in a perfectly controlled environment in the best location you can ask for to be able to have an outdoors

Steve King

2:48:46 to 2:49:07( Edit History Discussion )

Steve King: environment and the attacks at guantanamo guantanamo is about 20 a day. about half of those is these detainees throwing human waste in the faces of our mostly navy guards. and these guards are trained to restrain themselves from retaliation and they take pride in restraining themselves from

Steve King

2:49:08 to 2:49:28( Edit History Discussion )

Steve King: the retaliation. that's about 1 throwing human waste and trying to rub it in the faces of guards and the other assaul comes down to physical assaults with an assault trying to physically injure the guards.

Steve King

2:49:29 to 2:49:50( Edit History Discussion )

Steve King: about 20 times a day. if that would happen in the united states, they'll go to solitary confinement, charges brought against them and if found guilty then these prisoners in american prisons would -- they would get an extended stay in their maximum security prison. they would wash their diet

Steve King

2:49:51 to 2:50:11( Edit History Discussion )

Steve King: fewer calories per day and they would go into solitary confinement for a period of time. now, that, madam speaker, is what happens in an american prison. but down at guantanamo bay with these worst of the worst, the most violent american haters, the planners of the september 11, assault on the united

Steve King

2:50:12 to 2:50:33( Edit History Discussion )

Steve King: states, the worst thing we can do to them if they should get a guard guard and rub human waste into his face and perhaps nearly strangle the guard, the worst thing we can do to khalid shaikh mohammed, we reduce his outdoor exercise down hours a day. it's the worst penalty we can do.

Steve King

2:50:34 to 2:50:54( Edit History Discussion )

Steve King: so they get their air conditioned cell, the private room, they get a menu that's desig beliefs, they get their koran and their skull cap and get their rug. 800 or so that were down at guantanamo bay, one of them asked for not a koran but a bible. but when the word got out tha

Steve King

2:50:55 to 2:51:16( Edit History Discussion )

Steve King: there was an individual there who to keep order down at guantanamo bay became very precarious, and there was going to be such a rejection of the idea that there be a bible in the hands of someone down there that they denied this bible.

Steve King

2:51:17 to 2:51:38( Edit History Discussion )

Steve King: freedom to the people that are there and giving them all of the trappings they require with arrows to pray for and korans and skull caps and prayer rugs, but if there's a christian in the mix, they're denied their equal rights, their right to faith and religion and the temperature is set for the cultural temperature at 75.

Steve King

2:51:39 to 2:51:59( Edit History Discussion )

Steve King: that's guantanamo bay. perfectly set up, though, to house them and some of them need to be locked up for life and some of them need to be executed. but we can't get there because that you were hard on these prisoners down there. so we're adjusting american policy because of critics in places like europe, critics

Steve King

2:52:00 to 2:52:20( Edit History Discussion )

Steve King: that are air national -- let's see. what do we have? amnesty inte global websites that allege the united states is cruel and inhuman. no one could be any less cruel or any more inhuman than the detainees in that we have.

Steve King

2:52:21 to 2:52:41( Edit History Discussion )

Steve King: and i have gone there to see it, madam speaker. and it's a place you'd want to be if you had to be locked up. now, because of the politics of this, the obama administration has decided that the president two days after he was inaugurated on january 22 of 2009, issued an executive order that said we're going to close guantanamo bay.

Steve King

2:52:42 to 2:53:03( Edit History Discussion )

Steve King: it's written in english, but it's posted on the board down there in guantanamo in arabic and english. and surrounded by plexiglas om their table and say they are not going to be there

Steve King

2:53:04 to 2:53:24( Edit History Discussion )

Steve King: january 22, 2010. i don't know if the president can keep that promise but it's the promise made by the detainees. and that number has been we had the uighurs sent to bermuda. there are others that's been sent out to the rest of the world. madam speaker, i want to make the point that of those who

Steve King

2:53:25 to 2:53:47( Edit History Discussion )

Steve King: were released and the number of those who were released is the number greater than 500 by the bush administration, there is about a one in seven incidence of recidivism. of those released -- these were not the worst of the worst that were released. these were the best of the worst that w there's more than 500.

Steve King

2:53:48 to 2:54:09( Edit History Discussion )

Steve King: and now more than 500 went back around the world and at least one out of seven went back and began to plot against or attack the united states. that's a lousy recidivism rate. some will say, we have a greater rate of that when we release people from the prisons in the united states. we have a closer on eye them too, madam speaker. but at least in america we have

Steve King

2:54:10 to 2:54:32( Edit History Discussion )

Steve King: a police force out there when people eak the law we have a tendency to go out find out who they are, where they live and pick them up and try them again and lock them up again. but when you turn somebody loose in the world and they go back into the mountains of pakistan or afghanistan and they train and plot to attack americans, it's kind of hard to catch them a second time. but if we do that with one out

Steve King

2:54:33 to 2:54:53( Edit History Discussion )

Steve King: of seven, what happens with the worst of the worst? what happens with these 241 that are now do you around 220, if they get released into the world, these are the most dedicated killers of freedom-loving people that exist on the planet, at least in incarceration. and they are going to make common cause with the others they can find around the world

Steve King

2:54:54 to 2:55:15( Edit History Discussion )

Steve King: and th attack the united states. it's inevitable -- and the equation that the president of the united states and eric ho needs to understand, madam speaker, is that of these 221 detainees that they're looking desper them to the united states -- or at least a large share of them

Steve King

2:55:16 to 2:55:36( Edit History Discussion )

Steve King: to the united states -- if they are adjudicated in civilian courts which they expect to happen with k.s.m., khalid shaikh mohammed, whom i watched he blames the attack on september 11, 2001, on us, he wrote th document. you'd think in his defense

Steve King

2:55:37 to 2:55:58( Edit History Discussion )

Steve King: document he'd try to defend himself. instead, he attacked us said, it's your own fault, america. we told you we hate you. we declared war on you. we said we'd come and kill you. so you failed to defend yourselves from us. and so, therefore, it's your fault that 3,000 americans were killed september 11. you had to know we were coming because we said we would and

Steve King

2:55:59 to 2:56:20( Edit History Discussion )

Steve King: you didn't defend yourselves. that's khalid shaikh mohammed. that's how evil he is. and now the president has said, and eric holder has said that we'll feel better when they are prosecuted in the united states and when they are executed. and i'll say the president, the attorney general had repeatedly

Steve King

2:56:21 to 2:56:41( Edit History Discussion )

Steve King: said that k.s.m. will be convicted. i say it opens up a new set of appeals that k.s.m., while would be announced that he would be convicted and implied at least that he would be executed by the president of the united states who is a lawyer, a harvard lawyer, an instructor of constitution law

Steve King

2:56:42 to 2:57:02( Edit History Discussion )

Steve King: at the university of chicago -- even though he was adjunct professor, that's the announcemt from the president of the united states and the attorney general that said esntially this, first we'll hang them and then we'll try them. i point your attention, madam

Steve King

2:57:03 to 2:57:25( Edit History Discussion )

Steve King: speaker, by a writing by mark twain called "ruffing it" the turn of the middle of the 19th century. he wrote a story in "roughing it" about a captain, ned blakely. he was sailed off to the islands to get a load of whatever the product was there. as he sailed into the bay, he

Steve King

2:57:26 to 2:57:46( Edit History Discussion )

Steve King: had the meanest man on the islands came board named bill oaks and they had a big fight and the captain, ned blakely, won that. and bill came back and another time they had a fight and he won that. over a period of time this mean, bill, shot and killed the

Steve King

2:57:47 to 2:58:09( Edit History Discussion )

Steve King: first mate of captain blakely. the first mate happened to be a black man, a man that had great favor of the captain, a man that was trying to get away from the confrontation, he was chased down and shot to death by bill. and the -- in the narrative by mark twain. so no one wanted to take on bill. they were men.

Steve King

2:58:10 to 2:58:30( Edit History Discussion )

Steve King: there were about a dozen ships' captains that would be the law in that era. ned blakely went and arrested him and planned to hang him in the morning. and when the other captains found out about it, they came to see ned blakely, captain blakely, and said to him, you can't hang this man. he has to have a trial.

Steve King

2:58:31 to 2:58:51( Edit History Discussion )

Steve King: and captain blakely said, fine. let's have the trial. i'll hel i'll help you prosecute the man. how soon do you think you can do it? they said, well, we think we can have the trial in the m but captain blakely said, well, i'm going to be a little busy in the morning with the hanging and burying, so let's do the trial in the afternoon.

Steve King

2:58:52 to 2:59:14( Edit History Discussion )

Steve King: that's how mark twain described this first -- first we'l hang him and then we'll bury him and try him. that's about the message that's come from the president of the united states and the attorney general of the united states who essentially declared khalid shaikh mohammed and his four

Steve King

2:59:15 to 2:59:37( Edit History Discussion )

Steve King: other come compatriots to be guilty and subject to the death penalty and predicte and executed. president of the united states and the attorney general of the united states to take that position. and we're doing what? we're bringing these gitmo detainees to the united states, not because there's any logic

Steve King

2:59:38 to 2:59:59( Edit History Discussion )

Steve King: or reason to do this. there is no rational reason to bring these enemy combatants to u.s. soil. ther's no constitutional reason, madam speaker. there's no rational, logical reason. there's no strategic or tactical reason. w bringing them here. we don't get the odds of a

Steve King

3:00:00 to 3:00:21( Edit History Discussion )

Steve King: conviction with bringing them here. k.s.m. has confessed his own guilt and asked for the death penalty. one said yesterday, take the plea, attorney general. take the plea, mr. president. if he wants to plea guilty -- plead

Steve King

3:00:22 to 3:00:47( Edit History Discussion )

Steve King: to the death penalty, why would you bring t states and bring them within six blocks of ground zero in to the circus of the civilian court? we know what it looks like. o.j. simpson circus court comes to mind. that media circus would come. for what purpose?

Steve King

3:00:48 to 3:01:09( Edit History Discussion )

Steve King: constitutional, statutory, reasonable, tactical. none of that, madam speaker. maybe, if maybe, if we want to be charitable we can say the president and the attorney want to demonstrate to the world that america has a legitimate civilian court and provided under the law for anyone on the entire planet, not just people that have stepped foot in the united

Steve King

3:01:10 to 3:01:30( Edit History Discussion )

Steve King: states oritizens of the united states or are americans. and so, madam speaker, if that is the motivation for the president and the attorney general to express to the world that we are equal justice under the law and an open judicial system that we have the courage and the confidence and the

Steve King

3:01:31 to 3:01:51( Edit History Discussion )

Steve King: wherewithal to try these enemy combatants in a civilian court, so now the rest of the world is going to like us because we've done something that really isn't very smart and may be the most colossal blunder in this administration, could be the most colossal blunder of many administrations, madam speaker. all for what?

Steve King

3:01:52 to 3:02:15( Edit History Discussion )

Steve King: all so the rest of the world to like us, to trust us, to respect ourudicial system? and if that's the reason and it's the only one that seems to be threaded with anything that one could construe as logic in this decision, had to be approved by the president and anounced by the attorney general.

Steve King

3:02:22 to 3:02:43( Edit History Discussion )

Steve King: if we bring them out tft military tribunals and put in the civilian court, if that were a sound logic and had any chance of being effective and be good for the public relations of the world, they've already messed it up and already destroyed the benefit that might

Steve King

3:02:44 to 3:03:06( Edit History Discussion )

Steve King: co from trying in a civilian trial within six blocks of ground zero in new york city, because the president of the united states and the attorney general of the united states have both announced that and his four co-con spiritors are guilty and we're going to

Steve King

3:03:07 to 3:03:28( Edit History Discussion )

Steve King: prove it in open court and we're going to sentence them to death. now, how in the world does anybody around the world going to be objective decision and is actually the decision of a court when the verdict is already announced by the president of the united states and the attorney general? madam speakerthis is a

Steve King

3:03:29 to 3:03:50( Edit History Discussion )

Steve King: self-defeating logic here and i think that they have actually defeated their own rationale. i want to in the moments that are left just go through some pieces of this rationale so it goes into the record. the obama administration is acting dangerously by bringing foreign terrorists to our shores

Steve King

3:03:51 to 3:04:12( Edit History Discussion )

Steve King: from guantanamo bay. this is a direct threat to our national security. and by doing this, the obama administration is opening us up for another terrorist attack but you have heard concerns from i'm the ranking member of the immigration subcommittee and i will focus a little on immigration. the truth is if we bring these

Steve King

3:04:13 to 3:04:33( Edit History Discussion )

Steve King: terrorists to u.s. soil we may not be able to keep them in detention, even worse, we may not be able to deport them. so if we convict them, they may become our quents' new neighbors and how? well, because of tw one of them is, convention

Steve King

3:04:34 to 3:04:55( Edit History Discussion )

Steve King: against torture and supreme court's decision. the convention prohibits the return of aliens to countries where they may be tortured. if we could release these detainees and send them back where? we because of that fear.

Steve King

3:04:56 to 3:05:17( Edit History Discussion )

Steve King: the u.s. department of justice regulations implementing the convention on torture made no exceptions whatsoever for anyone's activities whether they be rapists, murderers, they are all equally protected. hundreds of criminals have received relief from deportation as a result of the convention

Steve King

3:05:18 to 3:05:38( Edit History Discussion )

Steve King: against torture and so has an alien involved in the assassination of anwar sadat. osama bin laden could possibly make a torture claim under this convention. after all, the more heinous actions and the more hated theyr

Steve King

3:05:39 to 3:05:59( Edit History Discussion )

Steve King: the more likely they are to be subjected to torture. the stronger their claim is that they couldn't be returned to their home country. so the ability of terrorists to frustrate the process might be tolerable but if we were certain we could keep the terrorists detained that would be the condition under which they would

Steve King

3:06:00 to 3:06:20( Edit History Discussion )

Steve King: be tolerable. this may not be the case, sect provides for the indefinite detention of terrorist aliens regardless of whether they qualify under the convention against torture.

Steve King

3:06:21 to 3:06:44( Edit History Discussion )

Steve King: however, it's very possible that the intervening supreme court will rule this provision unconstitutional and there would go the indefinite section under the patriot act. and the supreme court ruled under a different law, aliens ordered removed could not be detained for more than six

Steve King

3:06:45 to 3:07:05( Edit History Discussion )

Steve King: months if for some reason, in the convention against to they could not be removed. in the supreme court case, they made a statutory interpretation an us, interpretting the -- they were interpretting the statutes to avoid a serious constitutional threat. the court believed that a

Steve King

3:07:06 to 3:07:28( Edit History Discussion )

Steve King: statute permitting indefinite detention of ain alien would raise a constitutional problem. already that decision has resulted in hundreds of alien criminals into our communities. the former deputy assistant attorney general testified and i quote, the government is now required to release numerous

Steve King

3:07:29 to 3:07:52( Edit History Discussion )

Steve King: rapist, child molesters and other dangerous illegal aliens into our streets. the vicious criminal aliens are now being set free within the u.s., closed quote. it seems incredible that the administration intentionally bringing an alienterrorist sboot united states knowing they

Steve King

3:07:53 to 3:08:15( Edit History Discussion )

Steve King: may not be able to deport em ordain them on an endless basis. this is a very serious decisi on the part of the president and the attorney general and it establishes if allowed to set foot in the united states, it establishes a precedent precedent that will be very difficult to reverse,

Steve King

3:08:16 to 3:08:36( Edit History Discussion )

Steve King: establishe enemy combatant we would pick up in the world would have to be read their miranda rights. they are reading them to enemy combatants in afghanistan as we they are being asked to pick up battlefield evidence.

Steve King

3:08:37 to 3:08:58( Edit History Discussion )

Steve King: entirely different process to prepare for a military tribunal than it is for a civilian prosecution. the chain of evidence entrance of hear say evidence are in different types of rules and because, this congress understood the difference between war and criminal

Steve King

3:08:59 to 3:09:19( Edit History Discussion )

Steve King: actions. this congress understood the difference. our previous president understood the difference. this president seems to believe that this war on terror is fighting a criminal action, not an enemy war on terror action. and so it brings forth this idea of bringing these enemy combatants at this point.

Steve King

3:09:20 to 3:09:40( Edit History Discussion )

Steve King: of the 221 or so that might be brought the idea of allowing any of them to set foot on our soil, cou we presume they are all facing a death sentence and presume they would all be convicted and a face that sentence so they are

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